Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (Mar. 17, 1998): Debate Jim Dilettoso/Peter Davenport VS Kal Korf/Jeff Erskine

Art Bell

Art Bell moderates an exhausting 3 hour long UFO debate on 3-17-1998. 

First off the audio quality here is poor so I'm warning you ahead of time. I cleaned up some of the tinny sound but that's impossible to fix 100%. There are some sound distortions mainly in the first hour of the broadcast. 

First hour they debate the Bill Meier case. Second hour they debate the Phoenix Lights Third hour Art takes calls from the audience and you can hear what they think of these two people. 

This is a hella of an ugly mud fight. You can tell by listening that Korf really hates Dilettoso and so does Erskine for some reason. Jim accuses Korf working with Richard Motzer wrote a hit piece about him and shopped it around to various Phoenix journalist until they found Tony Ortega to publish it and it cost Jim his entire business. This is the ugliness of UFOlogy for all to witness. If you cover a huge case like the Phoenix Lights then debunkers come after your livelihood to destroy you and made and example out of Dilettoso and Barwood. That anybody else dares to ask questions about this topic and people creep out of the wood work to have you cancelled and destory everything you worked for. The trio of debunkers weren't just after Jim and Frances, they said all of us were going to prison. That the FBI was building criminal investigations of everyone connected with the Phoenix Lights investigition. I remember getting these emails from Richard Motzer that Bill Hamilton and I are next to get knocked out and placed in prison. 

Hightlights: Korf claims he's in communication with Davenport. Then Peter calls and says that's all a lie they never talk or email back and forth. Korf goes off the rails calling out pretty much everyone in UFOlogy are just con artists. Art Bell takes him to the woodshed on how Frances Barwood is a con artists. Erskine calls in and calls Dilettoso a liar over and over. Dilettoso admits that he did claim he was a Dr. and other misrepresentations of background in order to test the Meier photographs. 

By the the end of the night its clear both men damaged themself with this debate. As one caller put it 'you can trust either of these guys'. Related material from my channel. Remember to subscribe and hit the like button. This took hours and hour to edit and process. Thanks Tom!:)

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