Showing posts with label prophecy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label prophecy. Show all posts

Friday, May 13, 2016

Fulfilled or not? - 'Islamic State' Prophecy

Picture distributed by the Islamic State, showing militants including a commander known as Abu Waheeb.


CLAIM:

Matthew Deagle - the host of the now-cancelled 'Real Astrology' show on Jeff Rense radio - during his April 22 show has demonstrated (41:20 - 43:40 min.) to Michael Horn his "little tiny piece of proof" that supports the authenticity of Meier case. According to Deagle, the proof lies in the FIGU Special Bulletin #9 published in September 2003, where Meier has predicted, by name, the terrorist group - Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) / Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) / Islamic State (IS) - which took the US Government 8 years to predict it, i.e. in 2011.

I don't know where Deagle got the 2011 figure from or whether it is legit, but even much before that in 2006 a terrorist group Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) was reported to have formed as an umbrella organization by the Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AIQ), which actually was found a year after the Iraq war, in 2004. And much later in 2013, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has been the leader of the ISI since 2010 has announced the merger of his forces in Iraq and Syria, and the creation of ISIL/ISIS/IS. In any case, even if we take the 2006 year into consideration, this is 3 years after Meier published his information first. If true, this would be very interesting!

After taking note of this "prediction" (a fulfilled prophecy, according to Meier), more than two weeks later on May 9, Michael Horn (MH) has published an article - The People Were Warned and SOMEBODY Listened, Part 2 - on his blog, where he has provided that "proof" which was much talked about by Deagle on his show earlier. On his blog, MH writes (in orange):


(Meier was also the first person to even refer to Islamic States, 13 years ago*.)
*Unofficial translation by Matthew Deagle:

"The Americans are clueless about the mentality, the religion and the special sense of freedom of the Islamic peoples, and consequently are clueless about the Iraqis, wherefore it may fare quite terribly for these wannabe-conquerors, and it cannot be ruled out that actual terrorists become involved – such as Al-Qaeda – as well as other Islamic States that want to help the fight in Iraq against the hated American and British invaders. As in Israel and Palestine, I predict ever more murder and manslaughter, explosive-, grenade and rocket-attacks, in which suicide-commandos and individual suicide-assassins will be involved. That is what I think." – from FIGU Special Bulletin #9, September 2003


REBUTTAL:

There are 3 main reasons why this evidence, put forth by Michael Horn, as proof of Meier's prophetic accuracy is both fallacious and self-contradictory, right from the start. Let's begin!

Reason #1:

The above information from FIGU Special Bulletin #9, cited by Michael Horn and Matthew Deagle themselves, evidently talks about ISLAMIC STATES but not ISLAMIC STATE. It is still inconceivable to me, by what logic have they arrived from the word 'ISLAMIC STATES' to the terrorist organization which calls itself ISLAMIC STATE.

Reason #2:

In the same April 22 show, Matthew Deagle claimed that Meier has used "other Islamic States" in his Special Bulletin, in the context of a terrorist organization like Al-Qaeda, that fights against US and UK troops that have invaded Iraq in 2003. Apparently, MH has also subscribed to this proposition.

But, a simple reading of the text - "..it cannot be ruled out that actual terrorists become involved...as well as other Islamic States.." - clearly points to the fact that there are two different groups that are or would be involved in fighting against the US and UK troops. One is a terrorist group (Al-Qaeda) and the other is not a terrorist group (Islamic States who just hate the invading US and UK troops).

Reason #3:

Besides, Wikipedia on Islamic State says:

"An Islamic state is a type of government primarily based on the application of shari'a (Islamic law), dispensation of justice, maintenance of law and order. (..) Today, many Muslim countries have incorporated Islamic law, wholly or in part, into their legal systems. Certain Muslim states have declared Islam to be their state religion in their constitutions, but do not apply Islamic law in their courts. Islamic states which are not Islamic monarchies are usually referred to as Islamic republics."

And the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) claims to have 56 Islamic States as its members. So even if Meier just wrote ISLAMIC STATE, it doesn't in anyway automatically signify the terrorist organization ISIS/ISIL, but could be argued to be any one among the several dozen Islamic States.

Moreover, none other than Meier/FIGU has explicitly made this very clear in their writings, where they have categorized countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc. as members of Islamic States.

Example 1:
FIGU Core Group members Andrea Bertuccioli has published the following in his article in FIGU Special Bulletin 30, October 2006:


"They could not bear that the supposed 'land of freedom' has so brutally kicked with feet their religious sensitivities and not even that, even some Arab and Islamic states - just like Saudi Arabia - has allowed the <unbelieving> Americans to start a military attack from holy ground against another Arab and Muslim-inhabited state."

Example 2:
Billy Meier has published the following in his article in FIGU Bulletin 53, September 2005:

"When accusations of Fundamental Rights, the human rights violations, torture, the death penalty, terrorism, unjust criminal enforcement and legislation, the war crimes and inhumanity, etc. are levied against other countries, then screams US-America pro and hurray and stomps it into ground , especially when it comes to Islamic States such as Iran, Syria and Iraq, etc."

And the final nail in the coffin appears in the Contact Report 636 (November 26, 2015), where both the Plejaren ET Enjana and Meier expounded on the distinction between the ISLAMIC STATE and the ISLAMIST STATE (ISIL/ISIS/IS) among others. Enjana claimed that unlike Meier who has "already often written" and "repeatedly pointed out (note: the distinction) in accordance with..remarks and explanations everything of the rightness," the "entire earth-human media-journalism of newspapers, journals, radio and television, etc." however "has still not understood" because of their "stupidity and ignorance."

CONCLUSION:

It looks like Meier followers and especially Michael Horn, after realizing their much touted, so-called - "ironclad, documented corroboration of…Billy Meier’s specific, prophetically accurate scientific information” and “environmental and world event related information” that “indisputably” proves “his singular status as the only authentic UFO contactee, and the prophet for the new time,” - has been thoroughly debunked and proven to be fabricated, is now trying to resurrect Meier's non-existent prophetic ability by falsely claiming that every major global news story has "already been predicted" by Meier years or decades ago, even if it contradicts Meier's own information. And the above ISLAMIC STATE prophetic claim rightly serves as an ideal example for that, reflecting their desperation to prove to themselves and others that Meier is the real Universal Prophet and not a fraudster or a swindler.

UPDATE I: MH's blog article containing the specific ISLAMIC STATE prophetic claim has been silently removed without any notice. Perhaps MH, after realizing his ridiculous claim has challenged the credulity of even the hard-core Meier believers, might have felt compelled to take it down.

UPDATE II: All the blog posts (including the one containing the above ISLAMIC STATE prophetic claim) along with their comments, that have been published by MH on his blog after April 23, 2016 have also been taken down. No explanation was provided by MH on either his website or blog, so far. However all of them can be read on beforeitsnews.com website.

UPDATE III: (May 15)

MH's missing blog articles are back. Reportedly, the problem was with the hosting company. ISLAMIC STATE prophetic claim is of course still missing in his article.

Wednesday, January 7, 2015

Fulfilled or not ? - 'Massive ocean inside Earth' & 'Temperature of the Earth's core' Predictions



Michael Horn, the authorized American media Representative of Billy Meier has published yet once again another so-called corroboration article - New Corroboration of Billy Meier’s Prophetically Accurate Scientific Information (Jan 6, 2014) - that allegedly proves Meier's claim of being in contact with ETs. He further said the following:

"Now of course the skeptics and debunkers will really have to work hard to tell us just how Meier “hoaxed” his advance knowledge of…so many things. He couldn’t just be – telling the truth about his 73-year-long contact with the Plejaren extraterrestrial human race, could he?"

Should one "really have to work hard" to tell that this corroboration claim is a bogus one ?
Absolutely not!

This alleged corroboration claim just like the previous ones which have been demonstrated on BMUFOR website and on this blog page, will be revealed below as nothing but pseduo-scientific claims.

Now let us analyze the claims made by Michael Horn. In his article, Michael Horn made two claims.
  1. Massive ocean discovered inside Earth
  2. Temperature of Earth's core is same as the surface of the Sun
1. Massive ocean discovered inside Earth

Michael writes the following in his article:

"A new article in NewScientist, titled Massive ‘ocean’ discovered towards Earth’s core, reports that a “reservoir of water three times the volume of all the oceans has been discovered deep beneath the Earth’s surface.”
This “new discovery” apparently wasn’t so new to the Plejaren, as Ptaah mentions “enormous masses of water also located in the interior of the earth” in his discussion about numerous terrestrial matters with Billy Meier in the 540th Contact, on May 19, 2012…two years before this “new discovery”."


What does the June 12, 2014 NewScientist article say:

"A reservoir of water three times the volume of all the oceans has been discovered deep beneath the Earth's surface. The finding could help explain where Earth's seas came from.
The water is hidden inside a blue rock called ringwoodite that lies 700 kilometres underground in the mantle, the layer of hot rock between Earth's surface and its core."


What does the Contact Report (CR) 540 say:

Billy:
...Then, however, I have here one more question on account of the earth's magnetism, which for a long time already, should become increasingly weaker. Can you tell me the reason for this?
Ptaah:
..And since the Earth's magnetism is not equally strong everywhere on the planet and magnetism-fluctuations appear, that can have negative consequences in many connections...A disturbing influence takes place, e.g., with regard to the movements of the earths petroleum lakes located in the interior of the planet, as enormous masses of water also located in the interior of the earth, will however move in equal measure, which would bedeck the whole earth kilometers-high, would they penetrate to the outside...

Objection #1:
 In CR 540, ET Ptaah just says "enormous masses of water" but he didn't specify how many times the quantity of earth oceans (NewScientist says 3 times) is present inside the Earth. Also he didn't specify the region, the distance from the Earth's surface where this "ocean" region (NewScientist says around 700 kms in Mantle layer) is located. Remember, the radius of the Earth is 6,371 km (3,959 miles)So objectively speaking, Meier's information in CR 540 is pretty vague and nowhere does it reveal any specific, unambiguous information (strong enough to prove Meier's claims), as was published in the NewScientist article.

Objection #2:
Even if we grant some weight to Michael's claim of corroboration, none other than Billy Meier/FIGU "debunks" Michael Horn's claims. How?

In Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 6, page 50, a newspaper article - Viel Wasser im Erdmantel (A lot of water in the Earth’s mantle) - originally published in Tages-Anzeiger, Zürich, Tuesday, June 10, 2003 was presented.

The article reads as follows:
 
"The Earth’s mantle isn’t dry as previously assumed, but may also contain large amounts of water in deeper layers. ETH-researchers of the Institute of Geophysics found corresponding evidence ("Science", Vol. 300, pg. 1556). Their new measurement data supports the theory that at a depth of 410 kilometers water molecules are incorporated into the mineral layers. Until then the consensus was that this was only the case in the upper layers of the Earth’s mantle. If their assumptions are confirmed, according to the researchers, a water reservoir twice as large as the oceans
would be stored. This finding is useful for geologists: they can draw conclusions about underground movements throughout history." 

This 2003 article clearly refutes Michael's claim of corroboration of CR 540, 2012 information by using the 2014 article as evidence. 

Objection #3:
The above Tages-Anzeiger article was actually presented as a corroboration for Meier's information from Contact Report 230 (PPKB 6, pg. 50; translation of the excerpts not yet available on FOM):

Billy
...And as you explained, water is not only stored in the upper Earth’s layers, but even hundreds of kilometres deep within the Earths mantle within certain rock layers etc., and in such large amounts that it exceeds the mass of all the water on the Earth’s surface.
Quetzal
434. That is of correctness.

Information in this CR 230 is far more specific relative to the CR 540 which Michael uses as source for his claims. In CR 230 we have Meier at least pointing out the layer (Mantle) in which this large amount of water would be present and also vaguely the quantity (exceeds the water on Earth's surface), though he didn't specify the region (in kms) from the surface of the Earth where this water would be.

Can Michael now use CR 230 instead of CR 540 as source for his corroboration claims ?

No, because CR 230 was for the first time published in Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 6 in 2005 and the Tages-Anzeiger article was from 2003.

Objection #4:
Even though this information was published for the first time in year 2005 in PPKB 6, let us for a moment, consider the year 1989 (CR 230) - the alleged year in which Meier & ET Quetzal shared this information - as the baseline for our analysis.

Is Meier the first person to suggest that the masses of water are inside Earth's mantle ?

No.
As this 1987 science paper - β-MgrSiOo: A potential host for water in the mantle? - clearly indicates in its title. It even goes back to the year 1975.

The following excerpt is from this paper:

"Alternatively, various estimates based on planetary accretion models and geochemical mass-balance observations suggest a bulk amount of water in the entire mantle of between three and six ocean masses 21, 22.

21 Ringwood, A. Composition and Structure of the Earth’s Mantle (McGraw-Hill, New York, 1975)
22 Ahrens, T. Water storage in the mantle. Nature 342, 122–123 (1989) 


2. Temperature of Earth's core is same as the surface of the Sun

Michael Horn writes the following in his article:

"While we’re at it, an article on the Huffington Post explores the fact that the Earth’s core is as hot as the surface of the sun, as was originally reported in the magazine, Science. Not unexpectedly, Billy Meier already published the essential facts, as Ptaah presented them to him by, in 1986:

53. The Earth’s core, thus the center of the Earth, is not simply a solid mass, as is erroneously supposed by the earthly scientists; rather, it is a core that is similar to what the Sun is in its entirety."

What does the 2013 The Atlantic article say:

"A new study in Science suggests that the temperature of our planet's core is much, much hotter than previously thought -- 6,000 degrees Kelvin, compared with earlier estimations that were closer to 5,000 degrees Kelvin. This temperature, blazing hot to a degree beyond comprehension, is the same as that of the surface of the sun."

I don't know how Michael connected the verse 53 from Contact Report 212 (1986) to the 2013 article as the verse 53 nowhere suggests anything about temperature, not to say the temperature of Earth's inner core and the surface of Sun as being equal. It just says that the Earth's core is similar to the Sun, which is once again very vague in its description. What features of the Sun and Earth's core are being referred to by Quetzal ? Pressure, density, composition, luminosity, temperature, etc ?

In fact in the next verse after verse 53, Meier clears this ambiguity as follows, which for some reason was ignored by Michael:

Quetzal:
53. The Earth’s core, thus the center of the Earth, is not simply a solid mass, as is erroneously supposed by the earthly scientists; rather, it is a core that is similar to what the Sun is in its entirety.
Billy:
So it’s a bubbling, nuclear furnace.
Quetzal:    
54. That is a good comparison.

So both Meier and Quetzal seems to suggest that the nuclear processes that happen in the Earth's core are similar to those that happen in Sun. In Sun, nuclear fusion takes place.

From Wikipedia:

"In nuclear physics, nuclear fusion is a is a nuclear reaction in which two or more atomic nuclei collide at a very high speed and join to form a new type of atomic nucleus. During this process, matter is not conserved because some of the matter of the fusing nuclei is converted to photons (energy). Fusion is the process that powers active or "main sequence" stars."

According to mainstream science, Earth's core is primarily not a nuclear reactor. Following is an answer to a similar question - Does nuclear fusion go on at the earth's core? - asked on Yahoo Answers:

"The answer is no.

Two reasons:
1. It is not hot enough
2. The elemental components are not right.

Fusion is the combination of lighter elements to produce a heavier element. In doing so it releases energy. This is how stars work. As the atomic number increases the amount of energy released becomes smaller, until you get to iron. After this point you have to add energy to fuse to elements together. The core of the Earth is made up of heavy elements that will not fuse. However some of these elements are unstable and will undergo fission; atomic number becomes smaller. It is the
decay of these elements that keeps the interior of the Earth warm."

Nuclear fusion is one of the main reasons that differentiates a planet (Earth) from a star (Sun). Following is an excerpt from this link:

"If an object has a mass of 0.084 times the mass of our own sun (85 times the mass of Jupiter) the core reaches a point where it can start the process of nuclear fusion in its core (see fig.1). If the mass is smaller than this, the lowest temperature to support nuclear fusion will never be reached and the object will never shine like a star."

CONCLUSION:

Let me once again quote what Michael said in his article:

"Now of course the skeptics and debunkers will really have to work hard to tell us just how Meier “hoaxed” his advance knowledge of…so many things. He couldn’t just be – telling the truth about his 73-year-long contact with the Plejaren extraterrestrial human race, could he?"

We have shown that Michael Horn’s extravagant claims are largely based on wishful thinking, unproven presuppositions and ignorance of even the FIGU material itself, rather then objectivity, critical thinking and decent research. He doesn't seem to realize these articles and claims do not at all add to the credibility of the case, but rather give the impression of propaganda fueled by blind belief, at least to anyone who spends even a few minutes to check any of his claims.

Tuesday, November 25, 2014

Fulfilled or not ? - 'The Pied Piper of Hamelin' prophecy



We initially wanted to address all the claims of corroborations or the fulfillment of the prophecies and predictions made by Meier, his representative Michael Horn & his supporters on a new website. Since, the website is still under construction & moreover recently there has been a surge in such claims, we have decided to respond to them on this blog under the title - Fulfilled or not ? 
If you feel that we have made any mistakes in our analysis, then please either comment under the post or contact us privately.

Following are the excerpts from an article* - URGENT: Another Prophecy Fulfilling (Nov 24, 2014) - published by the Meier case representative Michael Horn on his blog:

241. 1995 will also be the year in which slowly a new mighty one will begin to develop, who wants to charm the world and gather followers around him, as the Pied Piper of Hamelin did, which is why, in a prophecy, he is also called Pied Piper. 

This sentence no. 241 is written on page 405 of the book “Prophecies and Predictions” (Billy/BEAM, Wassermannzeit-Verlag, 8495 Schmidrüti) and which is taken from a conversation between Billy and Ptaah during the 251th Contact on 3 February 1995.

On 24th October 2014, I asked Billy whether Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was the Pied Piper referred to in the sentence no. 241, which he confirmed. The conclusion is: Unfortunately another prophecy is already fulfilling again!

“This is a highly dangerous situation,” Billy told me.


* NOTE: Michael Horn received the English translation of the article (“The Pied Piper” or “Again a Prophecy of BEAM is Fulfilling“) originally written in German by Mariann Uehlinger (FIGU CG member), from Patric Chenaux (FIGU CG member) at FIGU in Switzerland.


Both Michael's Mariann Uehlinger's question and Meier's response suggests that there can only be one person ("Pied Piper") that fits the CR 251 prophecy (see verse 241). Was Meier's response on the identity of "Pied Piper" and the interpretation of the prophecy the same, throughout the years ?

On April 30, 2007, Meier responded to a similar question on FIGU forum as follows:

Question:
Dear Billy,
 

In Contact 251 it is mentioned that 1995 will also be a year when an unknown, powerful male individual begins to come into prominence who spellbinds the world and gathers followers around him in much the same rat-catching manner as the Pied Piper of Hamelin. For this reason, in one prophecy, he is called the rat-catcher.

At one time I thought this referred to Osama bin Laden because of the Oplan Bojinka (a planned large-scale attack on airliners in 1995) and the Pied Piper story, vendetta part, about leading children into a hillside from which they would never return. But lately I’ve been seeing George W. Bush as a likely suspect, especially given that he was first elected to political office in January 1995, and later appeared inauspiciously to spearhead the plans of the neocons on a world-wide scale. Bush was already mentioned in this contact note for his coup ordering the US-backed invasion of IRAQ. Just to be clear, exactly who were you referring to as the unknown, powerful male individual?

Billy Meier*:
This „male individual“ is not just one person only, but several ones, like Osama bin Laden, Bush, Putin and other personalities in high offices. The pipe can be „translated“ as „suggestive forces“.


* Meier dictates the answers, while the FIGU Core Group member Christian Frehner writes them down immediately and later posts them in the forum.

This is exactly opposite to what Meier answered to Mariann Uehlinger on Oct 24, 2014, where he said that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was the Pied Piper being referred to, in the verse 241 in CR 251.

It is not over yet!

In FIGU Special Bulletin 46, an article - Der Rattenfänger (The Pied Piper) - was published by FIGU passive member Achim Wolf in Dec 2008. In it, Achim suggested that it was Bush Jr. who was the Pied Piper. When I contacted Achim today  (Nov 25), he told me that the identity of Pied Piper being Bush Jr. initially was his opinion; and since his article got approved by Meier/FIGU Core Group members and got published online, he told me that his opinion was proved to be right.

Let us put together the identities of the "Pied Piper" that was being promoted by Meier/FIGU at different points of time.

2007 - Osama bin Laden, Bush, Putin and many others that fits the behaviour of the Pied Piper of Hamelin
2008 - Just Bush
2014 - Just Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Why is the identity of the "Pied Piper" and the interpretation of the prophecy been changing over the years ?

Besides, the content in the verse 241 is so vague that any person who has a cultic-following fits to it. Is the verse 241, suggesting that this person charms the world in the year 1995 or that this person though begins to develop in 1995, charms the world and gathers followers around him only later ? In either case, any religious/cult leader, terrorist group leader, popular politician, celebrity, channeler, doomsday-monger, …etc can be made to fit into this prophecy. This is the reason why in the Newsletter of March 2005, Michael Horn published an article - New Confirmations of Meier's Information - in which he presented the views of the Meier case researcher, Chris Lock who is certain that the "Pied Piper" prophecy was fulfilled and that the person is Shoko Asahara, the founder of the Japanese new religious group Aum Shinrikyo.
 
Now here is another interesting item sent to me by Chris Lock. Chris is a researcher who is familiar with the Meier material and noted a specific prophecy from Contact 251 (see: www.theyfly.com “Proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt”) that he thinks was indeed fulfilled. Again, you can decide for yourself how accurate the information, and his conclusions, are. The point here isn’t to try and make things fit like a shoe that is too tight, it’s to bring to light that which seems to validate the information and then critically examine it. Here is Chris’ letter to me:

Dear Michael,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think I have read within your excellent work on Billy's fulfilled prophecies that the "Rat Catcher" prophesied by Billy Meier was Shoko Asahara, whom Time or Newsweek named "Prophet of Poison" on their cover page back in 1995. I was reminded of this when looking at the prophecy in a recent FIGU forum posting. This prophecy has also been fulfilled in horrific, graphic detail.

The prophecy (contact 251 or 235?) starts with events in 1995 and earth upheavals. The prophecy obviously begins with events in 1995 that center on Japan. For Japan was indeed the center of news in 1995. Of course, this was the time of the Great Hanshin Earthquake, commonly called The Kobe Quake, which actually covered a far greater area and took the lives of over 5,000 people. This was also the year that Asahara's mesmerized devotees made their sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway system just outside the Japanese administration's central nervous system killing at least 26 and injuring thousands, of civilians. Quoting from This month's Kansai Time Out magazine which has a 10th anniversary article on this seminal terrorist attack on the public of March, 20, 1995:

"Although the attack wasca reaction to the reputed police  raids [on its communes], it had immense symbolic significance. The trains in which the sarin gas was released converged at Kasumigaseki, the subway station in the area where numerous government ministries are located, and the nearest to the National Police Headquarters. "

Asahara had a complete and mesmeric control over his devotees just like the Pied Piper of Hamelin. He mesmerized many Japanese youngsters who had graduated from the most prestigious universities in the country and convinced them to give everything they owned over to his organization. This meant tracts of land, properties and all valuables. This was basically how Aum, or Aum Supreme Truth, expanded financially and in power throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

The group's members were very lacking in any critical or independent thinking, even more so than most religions. They were an exceptionally right-brained oriented group. Rather than using logic to recruit members they would just try to assimilate others into their group by feeling, intuition, and emotion. At the time I felt the analogy of an amoeba was apt: they just tried to invade one's personal space/zone and swallow people up into their group mind. Actually Billy's term of Rat Catcher and Pied Piper are perfect descriptions of them, and especially their leader, guru Asahara.

The following quote again from this month's KTO stresses the importance and significance of this Pied Piper and his followers on and for the people's of our world:

"Its attacks on Matsumoto and the Tokyo subway are widely seen as the first lethal attacks on a civilian population by non-government agencies using weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and as a result, the movement came under intense scrutiny and study by intelligence agencies around the worldc.the Aum case continues to be seen as an example of a modern development in terrorism, namely, the rise of religiously-inspired terror and the public use of WMD on non-combatants, and to be studied by intelligence agencies in the U.S. and Europe. Equally, Aum's mode of attack remains central to Western governmental thinking and contingency planning: When the British government's security services carried out a mock enactment of a major terrorist incident in London recently in order to test its contingency planning for such events, the scenario it used was a sarin attack on the subway system. Other capitals in the West have seen similar exercises. The Aum example, in other words, has set a templa

It is virtually certain to my mind that this prophecy refers to the Japanese Aum Supreme Truth and specifically to its leader Shoko Asahara. Interestingly, before him in the 80s in Japan, was the infamous cannibal Tsutomu Miyazaki, who killed and ate a little child. Miyazaki said a number of times after his arrest that "The Ratman made me do it." It is unclear to this day to what he was referring. He's not sure himself, he says, and it could be the ravings of a mad mind or an attempt on his part to shirk his responsibility for what he did. One thing is certain the Rat man, and Pied Piper who led astray the youth lived in Japan, the latter coming to the fore in 1995, and currently the Pied Piper of Aum Shinrikyo (Aum Supreme Truth) is awaiting his execution while the world continues to learn sober lessons from his horrendous precedent-setting actions.

Source
Reader, Ian. (Mar. 2005). "Ten Years On." Kansai Time Out. Kobe: S. U. Press. p7-10.

Hope you can use this Michael. The timing is just right. KTO's website is www.kto.co.jp. If you say you could give them a plug or mention they might send you a copy of this month's issue containing the article.


Conclusion:

This brings us back to the main question - Is this prophecy fulfilled or not ?

Since the content is so vague, many persons can be made to fit into the prophecy as can be seen from above. This makes the objective verification of any corroboration or fulfillment claims, impossible. But this doesn't automatically mean that Meier or ETs didn't have the identity of a person ("Pied Piper") in their minds when they have first prophesized it. However, as we have seen, the identity of the "Pied Piper" (and also the interpretation of the prophecy) had been changed many times over the years, which suggests that this is not a genuine prophecy.

Friday, September 12, 2014

Coast to Coast AM: 'Meier Prophecies' with Michael Horn (Sep 10, 2014)


In the latter half, Michael Horn, spokesperson for famed UFO contactee Billy Meier, discussed recent controversies surrounding the validity of the Meier case, as well as reviewed specific prophecies pertaining to current Russian military movements, and the exact countries involved. In 1987, Meier reportedly had 215 contacts with an ET named Quetzal, who presented the "Henoch" prophecies to him, which included one that specified that the World Trade Center would be destroyed by terrorists (though no dates were given in the prophecies). "The United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause of this will be manifold with her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and [fueled by] enormous hatred against her worldwide. As a result America will experience enormous catastrophes," he quoted from the prophecies.

Horn connected the prophecies to current events such as the Ebola epidemic, and cautioned of a yet-to-come prophecy that Russia would attack Scandinavia during a summertime period and all of Europe would be embroiled. Meier spoke of attacks on Norway, Sweden, and Finland, with eventual Russian attacks on Canada and the United States via Alaska. Canada is currently challenging Russia over resources at the Arctic, Horn noted. He also refuted various hoax charges against some of Meier's UFO photos and ET evidence.


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Sunday, February 16, 2014

Michael Horn Gifts UFO-Prophet: 'And Did They Listen?' DVD



Michael Horn, the Authorized American Media Representative for the Billy Meier Contacts gifts UFO-Prophet a free DVD of his latest documentary - And Did They Listen?(Feb 2014).

Watch Trailer: FIGUTV
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Friday, October 11, 2013

Wednesday, September 4, 2013

Investigating the Billy Meier UFO Case (Sep 2, 2011): Derek Bartholomaus at Skeptrack, Dragon Con



Since 2003, Derek Bartholomaus has been researching the various extra-terrestrial contact claims made by Swiss farmer, Eduard Albert “Billy” Meier, with a skeptical, and critical, eye. His research has now been collected onto a new website: The Billy Meier UFO Case.  Derek is going to be discussing his research as part of the Skeptics Track at Dragon*Con 2011 in Atlanta, Georgia this coming Labor Day weekend.
Dragon*Con is the largest multi-media, popular culture convention focusing on science fiction and fantasy, gaming, comics, literature, art, music, and film in the universe! SkepTrack is a complement of live entertainment and discussion panels for the legions of free thinkers, science enthusiasts and skeptics helping to put the Science in Science Fiction at Dragon*Con. On Friday, September 2, 2011 at 5:30 PM in Hilton Hotel Meeting Room 205/206/207, Derek Bartholomaus will be presenting an overview of his involvement in the Billy Meier UFO Case. Throughout the years claims have been made by Billy Meier, and his supporters, that Derek has successfully shown to be inaccurate. For example, Meier claims to have predicted an accident at a nuclear power station in France in 2003 that shut down the reactor. Derek was able to show that, not only was there no accident at the power station, the reactor was not shut down.
One of the highlights that will be discussed at Dragon*Con concerns the work conducted by Phil Langdon, from the United Kingdom, who has been able to successfully recreate all of the various Billy Meier photographs and movies. His reproduction work is so accurate that it also finally answered a thirty-year-old question about the case. This answer, and much more, will be discussed at Dragon*Con 2011 on Friday, September 2 at 5:30 PM in Hilton Hotel Meeting Room 205/206/207 in Atlanta, Georgia.
The Billy Meier UFO Case is the home of the research conducted by Derek Bartholomaus into the alleged extra-terrestrial contacts of Eduard Albert “Billy” Meier. 
Visit our website at http://www.BillyMeierUFOCase.com or call (323) 364-2596.

Article Source: PRWeb, Aug 25, 2011
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Video SourceSkeptrack or Vimeo

Thursday, August 29, 2013

Revolution Radio ( Aug 24, 2013): Host Mark Snider



The first half an hour Mark discusses the wild fires in western United States and relates them to the Billy Meier Prophecies.

Listen: Youtube

Friday, August 16, 2013

Coast to Coast AM(Aug 15, 2013): George Noory with Guest Michael Horn



First hour guest, Michael Horn, spokesperson for UFO contactee Billy Meier, announced that a new photo analysis shows that Meier's "Wedding Cake" UFO is authentic. He also talked about how some of Meier's prophecies (given to him by his ET contacts) have proven to be accurate, like the details he published in 1976 about the planet Mercury contracting. Some of Meier's other predictions such as a Russian invasion, and a new civil war in the United States, have yet to occur, but Horn believes that we're seeing signs that these events are lining up.

Source: C2C AM
Listen from 12:20 min: C2C AM Vault

Wednesday, July 3, 2013

UFO-Kurier(N18, April 1996): 'The Meier controversy - New accusations' by Luc Bürgin


Semjase: But now it is time for me, because I have to go back to the North sea.
Billy: Then just go, you nightingale – I almost said night owl, but that doesn’t fit you, you’re more like a nightingale – also with regard to singing, by which I mean the voice.
Semjase: Your compliments are of exceptional value and very honest.
Billy: Thank you, then take all the flowers in the world as a token of honour and let their flavour please you in peace and love.
Semjase: You are very sweet, I have a very peculiar feeling within myself.
Billy: You are also very sweet – I wish you so much, lovely girl, may the enchanting flavour of the flower world guide you in love. Goodbye, and until we meet again soon.

(from: Guido Moosbrugger, "Und sie fliegen doch...", Düsseldorf 1991)

Until today the statements of the Swiss Billy Meier lead to heated discussions in the UFO-scene. For decades Meier claims to have personal and telepathic contacts with the “Pleiadians”, and even to have undertaken interstellar flights and time travels with his extraterrestrial friends. Naturally he also met Jesus Christ (who he calls Jmmanuel in his reports) on these occasions and equally naturally Jesus was astonished about his “high intellect”.
As evidence for his hair raising assertions Meier provided hundreds of pictures over the course of years, at which Pleiadian beamships are supposedly visible. He also brought highly blurred pictures from his journeys to other planets in circulation. In addition Meier perpetuated the knowledge gathered during his contacts on thousands of pages which are being studied enthusiastically by his followers – off which there are many – until the present day. While the majority of UFO-investigators are sceptical or even reluctant to the Meier story, other investigators and publishers like Gary Kinder, Randolph Winters, Guido Moosbrugger or Wendelle Stevens basically give the Swiss credibility.
Even the most enthusiastic Meier followers might now become hesitant. The reason: Kal Korff. The American has recently published a book counting over 400 pages, which very precisely documents the results of his many years of investigation ("Spaceships of the Pleiades", New York 1995). No unfounded suspicions, no subjective polemics, but hard facts characterize his work. Facts which properly dismantle the Meier case.
Korff didn’t hesitate to investigate on site: under the false name “Steve Thomas” he managed to get inside Meiers "Freie Interessengemeinschaft für Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften und Ufologiestudien" (FIGU) in Hinterschmidrüti, where he pretended to be an enthusiastic Meier follower, which gave him the possibility to talk to his closest associates. (He only saw Meier himself from a distance, despite his many requests to speak to him personally.)
During his stay the American asked the followers of the UFO-guru, among other questions, how they would react to a possible visit of Korff, the well-known Meier-critic. Bernadette Brand, a long-standing confidant of Meier, answered: “Lee Elders warned us about him, we wouldn’t allow him in, and if we did, we would never let him go…” Korff was alarmed. Nevertheless he insisted to perpetuate himself in Meiers guestbook.
Let us get into the most important weak points which stroke Korff in Meiers story: the already frequently and gladly cited claim that De Anza Systems in San Jose (California), in commission of Genesis III (a group of Meier supporters), Wendelle Stevens as well as the by MUFON-CES, because of his photo investigations, criticized computer expert Jim Dilettoso have analysed several of Meiers pictures, is false. On inquiry of Korff the company managers disputed since 1980 to have ever researched photo material. Company manager Wayne Heppler about that: “The guys pretended that they wanted to buy a computer. For demonstration purposes we took one of their UFO-pictures and enlarged it (…). They then took a picture of the screen and left (…).” Heppler also declared that De Anza Systems didn’t posses the technical abilities to ensure conclusive photo technical analyses.
Also Ken Dinwiddie, who then did the demonstration, could remember the visitors clearly. During the course of his conversation with Korff most claims about the alleged results of the De Anza-“analysis” turned out to be nonsense. An example should be sufficient: in the pro-Meier-literature occasionally the claim emerges, that the soil of the terrain, above which one of Billy’s flying saucers supposedly had flown its circles, reflected at its bottom side, what would be clearly visible on a photograph which was edited with false colours. A circumstance which – according to Meiers followers – impressively excludes trickery.  As Dinwiddie declared to Korff about this, he inserted the reflection himself by personal request of Dilettoso.
Other photo experts like for example Neil Davis, Eric Eliason or Michael Malin, to which the Meier-pictures were presented for examination, couldn’t admittedly find any manipulations, but in their respective opinion or in later conversations they pointed out that the presented material only allowed for limited conclusions. To be short: without an examination of the respective negatives no adequate evaluation could be made about the pictures. (Characteristically no negatives exist anymore today. According to Meier they were all lost in the mail, or they were stolen from him.)
In the course of his investigation Korff decided to critically examine some of the Meier-pictures himself. The results of his study were more then sobering. It turns out that in many cases the respective sharpness of the photographed saucers were not corresponding to other objects of comparison on the picture. Also computer analysis brought values to light which were in strong contradiction to Meiers claims about the size, height and distance of his UFO’s. In addition Korffs investigations documented bulges and asymmetries on the outer casing of the objects, which construction would rather indicate self fabricated models then extraterrestrial spacecraft. In the case of a photo of March 19, 1976, on which a UFO allegedly hovers behind the branches of a tree (a circumstance which by the Meier-proponents is used as an argument for the genuineness of the respective pictures) a computer manipulation was enough to determine that the alleged spaceship was located in front of the tree.
Another UFO Billy allegedly snapped in February 1975 at Unter-Balm from another hovering spaceship at the same height, 300 meters above the ground. However during a comparison of the terrain on location Korff discovered a small hill, on which the observer is offered the exact same geographic perspective which is also visible on the Meier-picture. The American estimates the height of this hill on a mere 7 meters.
In the case of a series of pictures, supposedly showing a Pleiadian spaceship curving around a tree at Fuchsbüel at July 9th, 1975, the indications of a fabrication are even more obvious. Korff examined the location and concluded that Meier occasionally turned a full 90 degrees while taking the pictures, because the background setting on some of his pictures changes completely. The American: “As the series of pictures clearly shows, the tree must have moved with Meier when he changed his direction twice, since on all ten pictures the same tree silhouette is visible. I hardly need to mention that trees don’t move…”
Characteristically Korff and others searched for the tree in question in vain during their investigations on site. No wonder, according to Meier the cautious Pleiadians eliminated it already many years ago, since it was contaminated by radiation during their demonstration flight. Korff also found Hermann Wyss, the longstanding owner of the strip of land in question, to ask him for the whereabouts of the tree. During this conversation Wyss couldn’t suppress a chuckle. As Korff learned from him, there never was a tree on the said location at all! When after that the American went trough the Meier-pictures again, he discovered a picture among them which Meier allegedly snapped four months before the tree-elimination: also hereon one amusingly seeks for the mysterious tree in vain.
The discrepancies become even worse with his alleged space travels. In this case Meier brings forward among others self snapped pictures of Venus as proof for his assertions. Foolishly the visible cloud formations thereon are exactly identical with those visible on photos taken in 1974 by the NASA-orbiter Mariner 10 – by means of a special UV-filter of course! Billy’s story eventually becomes completely ridiculous, when we consider his picture of the Horsehead Nebula, which he supposedly snapped “from a few thousand kilometres distance”. An acquainted natural scientist comments: “The picture is identical to a picture from one of my astronomy books, including all stars in the foreground. Apart from that Meier could never have made any pictures of gas nebulae with his simple camera, since they shine far too faint. Nearby they are far too thin, to be visible anyway. For such pictures to be made from the earth one needs a precise telescope which follows the earth rotation and a long exposure time.”
Two other pictures from 1975 seemed strangely familiar to me. They show ancient men, which Billy supposedly snapped during his travel to a planet called “Neber”. Somehow it seemed to me as if the Swiss photographed the two hairy figures from a graphic illustration, on which the evolution of men at different points in time is represented. Later it turned out my instinct didn’t mislead me. The graphic designers from List-publisher used such an illustration for the German version of a book of Steve Jones ("Die Botschaft der Gene",
München 1995), at which two of the depicted human predecessors were exactly identical with the creatures on Meiers pictures! (I saved myself the trouble to research the exact age of the original illustration, but I bet it originated before 1975.)
Finally Korff addresses in his book the allegedly so extraordinary metal samples, supposedly given to Meier by his extraterrestrial friends. Bottom line: neither the analysis by the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science & Technology nor the analysis by metallurgist Dr. Walter W. Walker (university of Arizona) showed any evidence for an extraterrestrial origin of the metal samples.
Only the chemist Marcel Vogel speaks around 1980 in an evaluation about an extraordinary composition, which he can only explain by an extraterrestrial origin of the material, all the more because one of the samples examined by him clearly contained Thallium, an extremely rare metal. As Korff determined in this matter, Vogel obviously interpreted his results incorrect: another conducted analysis by metallurgist Dr. Robert Olgilvie (Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge) didn’t show the slightest trace of Thallium.
In addition Kal Korff also carefully examines the scientific credibility of computer expert Jim Dilettoso. Conclusion: Dilettosos assertions, which state that he has a degree in natural sciences from the McGill-University in Canada are demonstrably false. Confronted with the inquiries of Korff during a radio interview in 1994 he eventuality stumbled something about an honorary title. He didn’t provide any evidence for that until now. Hardly surprising, the McGill-University doesn’t provide any honorary titles (according to investigations of Korff). During Korffs investigations also other assertions of Dilettoso concerning his professional career turned out to be downright lies.
Korff eventually devotes a series of pages to the main promoter of Meier, Wendelle Stevens, his long-term prison sentence, as well as the attempts of certain circles to portray Stevens sentence as an orchestrated plot “from above”, which objective was to discredit his investigations in the UFO-sector. Since this story only touches the fringes of the Meier case, I won’t get into detail about this matter.
After reading Korffs book I also started to examine my curious fellow-countryman myself. Different colleagues provided me with information and documentation in this regard, which back Korffs investigations more than once. Michael Arends from Germany studied the Semjase-reports as early as in the seventies. His photocopied documentations contain among others the following findings: “(…) it is therefore also understandable, that in Meiers contact reports authoritarian political systems are endorsed again and again. For example the dictatorship on the planet Akart (it is not mentioned where this planet is located) is positively addressed. Also Adolf Hitler is mentioned extensively, whereby the extraterrestrial humans assess him mainly positively (Semjase-report, page 375).”
An acquainted Swiss natural scientist also studied Meiers writings extensively around 1980. His impressions are written down in a lengthy, unpublished article. “The manuscript is solely a hymn of praise to Meier himself”, I read. “Although Meiers explanations consistently reveal a low education, Semjase is ecstatic about his “high knowledge”. In the manuscript little of this high knowledge is noticeable. (…) Off course astronomical themes are attended to in Meiers conversations with Semjase, and nothing points more clearly to the unreliability of his assertions then the many errors which emerge from his scientific remarks and are accepted by Semjase, as far as they do not originate from her.”
The article subsequently lists 25 contradictions in Meiers manuscript, from which I’d like to mention three as an example:
The Pleiades, from which Semjase originates according to herself, are an open star cluster, which are a few hundred million years old at most. For the formation of habitable planets this is far too short.
Meier: “An atomic destruction of the earth has a substantial influence on other solar systems or even other universes.” Impossible! The distances are far too great. Not even supernovae have any influence on their surrounding environment.
In the manuscript drawings emerge which supposedly stem from Semjase. Her style is just as dilettantish as that of Meier himself.
Also the “Talmud Jmmanuel” of Meier is examined more closely in the mentioned article. According to Meier we are talking about the original gospel, which was discovered this century by a certain I. Rashid in the cave in which the body of Jmmanuel (=Jesus) was taken after the crucifixion. The initiation for the discovery of the document was off course given by Meiers intimate friend Semjase, “the daughter of king of wisdom Ptaah, who travelled to earth in a beamship from the Pleiades, with the assignment to once more point humanity to the real truth, since the time has come to recognize the truth.” The ominous mister Rashid translated 36 chapters of the Talmud Jmmanuel in German and send them to Meier, before he “unfortunately” lost the mysterious document.
The Swiss scientist points out: “The Talmud Jmmanuel is basically nothing else then Luther’s translation of the New Testament with numerous changes and additions, which clearly do not originate from a manuscript, but rather from Meiers pen. (…) Consequently he uses a series of terms which didn’t even exist in the time of Jesus, for example ‘Logic’, ‘Natural law’ or ‘Brain’ (as seat of the intellect).” In the beginning of the book a letter is added which Rashid allegedly wrote to Meier and issued the future fate of the scrolls. The letter contains numerous linguistically erroneous expressions like “es ist mir leid”, “doch aber” or “verlustig gehen”. Exactly the same expressions we find in Meiers own writings.
But also racist passages sting in the eye of the Swiss scientist: “Most characteristically for Meiers views are arguably the numerous sharp anti-Semitic outbursts and the insult of the Jews, which he puts in Jesus’ mouth. He indeed railed against those who in his opinion interpreted the Bible incorrect, but not against his people, to which he belonged after all. The hateful passages are in strange contrast to the many additional world improving, moralistic passages, with which Meier extends the gospels.”
Who eventually pages trough “Information quer durch die FIGU”, a roughly 40 page brochure for those who are interested in FIGU and future members, comes across passages which hardly leave any doubt about the sectarian structure of Meiers environment: “If you visit us outside the official visiting hours, please be aware that after 30 minutes we summon you to assist us in the work that has to be done. (…) Visitors who appear outside the official visiting hours and only want to hang around, not willing to actively assist in labour are not tolerated. (…) These kind of visitors have a demoralizing effect on the centre residents and have to leave our centre and its surrounding area as soon as possible. (…) If you see Billy during your visit, then please leave him in peace. He has more problems to solve and duties to fulfil then you suspect, and at some point he deserves it to have a few moments of rest and enjoy our environment. (…) When you work for and with us, you do it according to the statutes of FIGU without any right for compensation! (…) Connected to the membership (…) is the obligation of meditation according to the meditation teaching.”
The members of FIGU are loyal to their master. Critical sounds from their own ranks hardly get out to the public. I could personally convince myself of that in 1994 during my participation in a panel discussion on the Swiss television. Across from me back then sat Meier-follower Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer. With a dogmatic uplifted forefinger Lanzendorfer (who refers to the FIGU in Hinterschmidrüti in an undated brochure from the centre as the “origin of great knowledge and creational philosophy”) didn’t get tired back then to regurgitate Meiers story in an uncritical and sectarian fashion and randomly deliver blows at press, church and science. He didn’t make any mention of the process Billy fought out with former members in the early eighties.
Via Roger Eglin from Basel, who carefully examined the Meier-case around 1980, I could see into a part of the documents from back then. On November 12, 1979 two close confidants of Billy, H. S. and C. S., wrote a letter to the local council of Turbenthal (Swiss): “(…) since two years E. Meier runs a so called meditation centre, which is constructed belowground, under the shed. (…) In the meditation centre is a changing room. A stairs is leading up to another room, in which a copper pyramid is located. In it the members have to carry out the meditation teaching under the guidance of E. Meier, while laying naked on a stretcher. That these locations are misused in various ways is sufficiently made clear in the accompanying resignation letter from (…). We’d like to point out urgently that E. Meier suggested on several occasions that he would defend the meditation centre by force of arms against foreign intruders if necessary. (…) Also he and his first companion, Jakob Bertschinger, posses a substantial weapon arsenal including ammunition. (…)”
On June 17, 1980 both FIGU insiders had another go, when they handed over a detailed list of financial amounts to the district attorney, which Billy received from his followers as interest-free loans. Around two thousand persons were mentioned by name in the questionable letter, the respective amounts range from 10,000 to 130,000 Swiss francs!
That Meier apparently uses any means in his pursuit for success is illustrated by a four page anonymous letter that was send by Billy in return to these ex-members. The letterhead shows in a large font  “BM – Galact CORPORATION”. The content of the letter basically consists of a very incoherent and long-winded threat to both Swiss to maintain their anti-Meier-initiative any longer, joined with an exuberant hymn of praise to Meier himself. Direct quote: “It must be eminently prevented that this Billy Meier can disseminate his material and his word, because he’s the most dangerous man in this area, since he can proof to every sensible thinking human being that his contacts are based in fact, which you know very well yourself. Our method is therefore that we put every UFO-observer (…) within reach under pressure to remain silent. (…) In tougher cases we have to take measures that will send such people to the afterlife. These measures however did not and do not have any effect in case of this Billy Meier. His spiritual power is simply too great, and besides that he is so knowledgeable, that he can even influence our people, by which means already some of our people were killed, without this guy having to move a finger, since his spiritual power is sufficient to kill. (…) Because of your abysmal stupidity and indiscretion you claimed 5000 francs from this dog and demanded a bankruptcy against him. Exactly that led to one of his greatest accomplishments of his prophet career: thousands of his followers donated contributions amounting around 98,000 francs, as our investigations indicated. He thereby waited until the last moment to pay the claim (…). In particular his dangerous and foreseeable thinking as well as his unbelievable spiritual power made him recognize that because of their stupidity and indiscretion and his patient waiting until the last moment he could achieve the victory he couldn’t achieve otherwise; namely that his cursed organisation became an officially accepted and legal association. (…) The fact that they could not recognize this, is completely incomprehensible for us, therefore we could only conclude that they are hatefully blinded (…).” (The reader is attended to the for Billy typical, incorrect conjunction of clauses, which are italicised.) Hardly necessary to add is that the ominous writing ends with a tangible death threat.
A few months after the mentioned broadcast of the UFO-discussion on the Swiss television I also received a letter from FIGU, which among other things contained a pamphlet from Meier about Kall Korff which wasn’t lacking insulting words. Numerous utterances were put into the American’s mouth, which he never made in this way, and from which he vehemently distances himself – also in his latest book. Instead of giving factual answers to Korffs accusations Meier only lashes out with polemics: “We don’t want to respond at all to the slanderous assertions of the liar, fraud, slanderer and intriguer Kal Korff regarding the investigation of the photographic material by Genesis III etc., because these are so primitive and far-fetched, that these childish assertions can be refuted any time.” In the rest of the text Meier designates his critic literally as “nasty scoundrel”, “skunk”, “brainless, intellectually disabled wannabe detective and pseudo investigator” and “paid dirty creature”. Is this the language of the same man that was praised by Jmmanuel/Jesus for his high intellect and wisdom and even distributes a writing with the ingenious title “Gesetz der Liebe” (“Law of love”)?!
To avoid being accused of having written a one sided article I faxed a rough draft of my article to Billy on February 14, 1996, including the request to read it and send me his written response regarding the raised accusations. As I expected Meier answered me (yet the same evening) with a polemic writing. I’d like to recite it here – except for some italic printed passages – without commentary:
“Concerning your faxed writing as well as your equally by fax transmitted article from today’s date: on my part I think it is beneath me to respond to your article, which I do not wish to read, since I can very well imagine what lies and slander you, as a Korff- and S.-friend, or at least their ally, want to bring to the innocent and unsuspecting readers with these lines, which are with certainty lacking any truth, and since I know you from the television and from magazines as a man who doesn’t represent the actual truth, but only goes by hearsay, according to the principle: ‘From hearsay one learns how to lie’. Furthermore I have to comment on your false accusations, which I know from television and journals as well as from Kal Korff and S., just as little as the lies and slander from these gentlemen and from you, which Korff and you invented, since you do not personally know me nor ever talked to me on the telephone or corresponded with me, as it is also the case with Korff. You, Luc Bürgin, as well as Korff aren’t in any way open, free, honest and unbiased to the truth, which is particular in your case a real pity. Unfortunately you are under the bad influence of liars, imposters, frauds and slanderers as well as under the influence of wannabe-ufologists, like those of MUFON and CENAP etc., by whom you let yourself being spun around and misled, and therefore, in my opinion, your truly outstanding capabilities for the dissemination and rectification of a case are suffering and are being enslaved, and as a consequence you cannot openly, honestly and consciously vouch for and disseminate the truth, but instead you let yourself being misused like a pawn by wannabe-ufologists, as well as liars and slanderers and other lunatics and fantasists for their rotten purposes. You write to me, that a possible response from me, in which according to your words you, however mistakenly, hoped to find a justification, would be added in your article by you and would be published to its full extend. I am anxious to know whether at least in this sense you act according to the truth and whether you are honest and great enough to fulfil your promise. It is yet to say that also lies and slanders in vile articles, and I take it this applies to your article as well, bring more good than harm, as I and those who cooperate with me experienced since the beginning, in marked contrast to good articles, which rarely have any effect. For this reason I’d like to request you not to forget to mention my/our address (FIGU, CH-8495 Schmidrüti/ZH), hence the people who are interested can inform themselves about the real truth.”
On February 15 and February 20, 1996 I received additional letters from my fellow-countryman, which contained more or less the same passages as his first letter. At least they also contained some answers to my questions. Among other things I asked Meier about two of his UFO-photos from the year 1975. One dates from June 14 and shows according to Meier’s “catalogue of authentic colour photos” a “demonstration flight of Semjase’s beamship”. The other one stems from June 25 and is titled “Two beamships, photographed trough the window of a third beamship (Semjase’s), with at the background the still recognisable environment of Rumikon”. Remarkable is that both photos have the same background; in the right side of both pictures an absolutely identical cloudlet is visible!
The answer I received from Meier, when I called him to attention to this matter, could hardly convince me: “You take dates from our catalogue and assume that these are accurate. Exactly that is unfortunately not the case, since this catalogue was repeatedly written of by different persons, which unfortunately caused many errors since we didn’t have a computer back then. (…) Unfortunately we hardly can correct the occurred errors today, which is understandable after 20 years. We were able to catch some mistakes, which we didn’t correct yet in a published catalogue however, but only in our notes. Also with the photos you mention (6.14/6.25) such dating errors occurred unfortunately. (…) The photos, which are dated June 25 are actually also from June 14, 1975.”
Some days later I asked Meier how it was possible that on two pictures Semjase’s UFO is visible, while he snapped the other one from inside Semjase’s ship, since evidently in between both pictures, based on the identical clouds, hardly any time was available to transfer to the ship. Billy’s answer may at best flatter the writers of “Star Trek”: “Naturally it is possible for the Pleiadians to beam a living being from one place to another, by which means it was possible to make pictures outside and inside simultaneously…”
During our exchange of letters I took the opportunity to ask Meier about another photo. The concerning picture is supposed to show “an extraterrestrial instrument on the inside of a spaceship” – as former associate Herbert Runkel stated during presentations in 1980. An instrument indeed, which suspiciously reminds of a (very terrestrial) oscilloscope. Meiers explanation: “The instrument photographed inside the spaceship is not an unfamiliar instrument to the earthlings, but indeed an oscilloscope which is still used for certain purposes in the ancient spaceship. I don’t know what it is used for however, because normally I’m not interested in technical and mechanical issues etc. I know that we are dealing with an oscilloscope here, because friends requested me to ask about it. I never asserted anything else, and thus I don’t have to retort nor justify myself in this case.”
It’s curious however that this picture, just like all the other pictures which Meier supposedly snapped in space, has an arched black edging. (While Meier usually explains these issues so that he snapped these pictures from a Pleiadian display, Korff suspects – with good reason – that Billy far more likely snapped them from his own television.) The answer to this additional discrepancy – Meier faxed it to me on February 20 – could only make me laugh out of pity: “All instruments in the spaceship are constructed behind a display-like protective casing, which are transparent like colourless glass, but are composed of other transparent material. The boundaries between different instruments are composed of a dark, metallic material that is arched and non-transparent. As they explained to me there is a vacuum under this protective casing which is of importance for the function of the equipment. And when I snapped a picture of parts of such equipment/instruments, then this wasn’t possible without also photographing parts of the arched protective casing...”
For the sake of balance, I perhaps should mention that the Meier case consist of many more facets, which I do not wish to clarify here, since in the meanwhile Billy’s story contains – as opposed to other UFO-accounts – to many weak points to further occupy myself with it. As long as the Swiss only comes up with polemic verbal attacks and far-fetched excuses instead of enlightening arguments, I take the right  to remain sceptical.

2.22.1996 - lb

Luc Bürgin
Mülhauserstr.88
CH 4056 Basel
e-mail: buergin@nethos.ch
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Source: meiercase.0x2a.info
Translated by: Simon Goudswaard,(June-July 2013)
Corrections by: Pete Ckonjevic,(June-July 2013)

Response to this article by Michael Hesemann: FIGU Bulletin 8

Sunday, February 24, 2013

'Swiss Radio International' journalist Bob Zanotti: Interview with Billy Meier(english, 1982)



Listen: The interview can now be heard on the website www.switzerlandinsound.com under "Interesting People" or here.

Billy Meier – UFO Contactee:
In the field of ufology – that is, the study of flying saucers – few enjoy the international fame of Billy Meier, a Swiss farmer who makes his home in the rural Turbental region north of Zurich.

Born in the Zurich suburb of Buelach in 1937, Eduard “Billy” Meier says he has been seeing flying saucers since 1942. Over the years he claims to have had regular personal contacts with UFOs and extraterrestrials who have visited him at short notice.

Billy Meier is a controversial figure in ufology, with groups of supports and detractors equally divided. For many, the excellent quality photographs of UFOs taken by Meier are proof of his claims. For others, his photographs and stories are a clever hoax.

Bob Zanotti has been interested in UFOs for some 50 years, and used to host a New York radio show about them and other offbeat subjects back in the 1960’s.

At the request of ufologist colleagues, Bob was able to get Billy Meier to agree to an exclusive and very rare interview in English back in 1982. It took place on Billy Meier’s farm near Turbental. Although Billy Meier has some difficulty in expressing himself in English, the interview is presented here as a unique sound document, almost in its entirety and with virtually no editing.

In this recording, Billy Meier discusses his personal background and  his UFO contacts; the purpose of the extraterrestrials’ mission; the nature of true religion; and his prediction about World War Three.

For more information and photographs, direct your search engine to “Billy Meier”.